So what engine type do you prefer?

[Duster_340]

in a mopar, would you rather have a 440, Hemi, or a simple small block? for me it all depends on the car. i prefer most dodgs to have Hemis, and most plymouths to have 440's, so i really dont know. how about you?

[RiversideParish]

A tall-deck big block, any day of the week. Except casual Friday. Then I'll have a 340 6-bbl.

[THEL78ISGREAT]

A tall-deck big block.
That doesnt really narrow it down

[WINGNUT]

in a mopar, would you rather have a 440, Hemi, or a simple small block? for me it all depends on the car. i prefer most dodgs to have Hemis, and most plymouths to have 440's, so i really dont know. how about you?


I'd take either a 440-6 or a 426. I've seen them both in action and depending on the driver there both very close in performance. Ofcourse it also depends on how each was tuned.

[RiversideParish]

That doesnt really narrow it down
That narrows it down to a 413, 426, or a 440. Or a 383, actually, too.

[RiversideParish]

I'd take either a 440-6 or a 426. I've seen them both in action and depending on the driver there both very close in performance. Ofcourse it also depends on how each was tuned.
Of course, if they both perform similar, then I'll take the easier-to-live-with and better-sounding one.

[Daffy]

A tall-deck big block, any day of the week. Except casual Friday. Then I'll have a 340 6-bbl.
The smallest High block is the 413

[RiversideParish]

The smallest High block is the 413
Didn't they have a 383 RB for about a year?

[Daffy]

I have heard tell of that but have never seen one....Kinda like the 350 big block mopar

[RiversideParish]

Well, including that, too, if it's real.

[THEL78ISGREAT]

Yeah, I think they mainly went into Windsors and Saratogas. A few slipped out with the long ram setups and short rams, and were terrors on the strip.

[WINGNUT]

Didn't they have a 383 RB for about a year?

Yes, IIRC......it was for '62..........but don't hold me to it. I know they were used in many Dodge Police cars.

[RiversideParish]

Those old cop cars were. Cool. I want a '69 Polara cop car... 440 and a 3.55 SurreGrip out back.

[ccthompson]

I cant say, dad's roadrunner has a 383 big block, my camaro has a 350 small. Ive never driven a hemi or a 440, or a 427. So in my experience, i would have to say small block. You can build a small block to run with a big block pretty easily.

Ive heard very good things about the big blocks such as low RPM torque and massive power, along with that comes the bad with weight, unless you build them right.....they cant handle as high RPMs as small blocks.

So, i guess i wasnt very clear, i would go with the small block.

[THEL78ISGREAT]

You can make a big block rev, around 8,000 rpms is possible out of most Chevy big blocks without using a ton of aftermarket parts or anything. Theres usually no need to do that though.

[RiversideParish]

I cant say, dad's roadrunner has a 383 big block, my camaro has a 350 small. Ive never driven a hemi or a 440, or a 427. So in my experience, i would have to say small block. You can build a small block to run with a big block pretty easily.

Ive heard very good things about the big blocks such as low RPM torque and massive power, along with that comes the bad with weight, unless you build them right.....they cant handle as high RPMs as small blocks.

So, i guess i wasnt very clear, i would go with the small block.
I respect your opinion, but I was under the impression was that muscle was about feeling the power.

Sure, that 350 Cutlass sounded mean and revved nice, but that 383 Cuda I got to sit in once (I ever mention that?) was practically a lighter-years difference. You could just feel it...

[74runner]

well, I've never driven a 426 HEMI, but I've driven 318's, 340's, 360's, a 383, a 392 HEMI, a 400, a 413, and 440's

and the verdict is.....440+6

did you even have to ask?

[RiversideParish]

Apparently so... :p

[Duster_340]

hey man, a Hemi has its place.

[RiversideParish]

Which is in NASCAR bore-a-thons.

[Duster_340]

NASCAR doesn't even allow Hemis.

[74runner]

not even the semihemi?

[Duster_340]

a Hemi for a Semi? i dont know, all i know is they no longer allow Hemis. they were just too fast after the superbird and daytona owned the track.

[74runner]

a Hemi for a Semi? i dont know, all i know is they no longer allow Hemis. they were just too fast after the superbird and daytona owned the track.
thats what I hate about NASCAR too many restrictions, they should have a CID limit and be naturally aspairated, and have to look stock.

[Duster_340]

what I hate about MASCAR is its so boring, this is more entertaining...
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=81113ddcb39cbd674d63d0bb321e5964.656063&cache=1

[RiversideParish]

NASCAR doesn't even allow Hemis.
1. It was a joke. 2. I know, I was referring to the 60s.

[Duster_340]

watching a Hemi Superbird beating the crap out of everything else accept other superbirds and daytonas is not what i call boring.

[RiversideParish]

See #1 in this user's previous post

[Duster_340]

what user? all i see is a looser. roflmao.

[THEL78ISGREAT]

Duster, I completely agree with you. The 426 Hemi is tied for the best or is the best musclecar engine ever. The 440 Six Pack is a pretty distant third or fourth.

[Duster_340]

woah woah i never flat out said the 426 Hemi was the best. i was still thinking. anyway, iv made up my mind, Hemi is the block for me. 440 has its place.

[74runner]

440 has its place.
like in every single dodge I can get my grubby little hands on.

[RiversideParish]

Duster, I completely agree with you. The 426 Hemi is tied for the best or is the best musclecar engine ever. The 440 Six Pack is a pretty distant third or fourth.
Even though they produced signifigantly more torque, and over a wider powerband? And with better driveability and lower cost?

The best thing the Hemi has going for it is high-revviness and lookin' good.

[Duster_340]

and the fact it a Hemi. any time you hear Hemi your just like "Hemi? Where? Beans?" if I made a show car, then Hemi. if i made a racer, 440. and it depends on the car too.

[RiversideParish]

Yeah. The Hemi certainly has a better red, if not the most deserved.

[74runner]

Duster, I completely agree with you. The 426 Hemi is tied for the best or is the best musclecar engine ever. The 440 Six Pack is a pretty distant third or fourth.
tied with what? buick 455 stage 1? BOSS 429?

I thought it was pretty untouchable. ( well I could beat it......but I'm talkin stock)

[THEL78ISGREAT]

Even though they produced signifigantly more torque, and over a wider powerband? And with better driveability and lower cost?

The best thing the Hemi has going for it is high-revviness and lookin' good.
Hmmm, which one ran faster times while still having much more traction problems? I rest my case. And where is your proof that a 440 makes more torque over a wider band?

[RiversideParish]

It should be obvious... 1540cfm of air flow, 2.25 valves, a big solid cam...

A formula for a lack of bottom-end. Even it it still has more torque, it would come at a much higher RPM. And generally, these types are usually quite peaky. Common sense, really. I guess.

[THEL78ISGREAT]

You really dont get the point of the Hemi head do you? IT UNSHROUDS THE VALVES. It therefore suck in more air and gas because of a higher VE. Having big valves dont really make an engine more sluggish. You cant floor a Hemi off of the line anyway, so who cares how much CFM it has? If its so sluggish then why does it pull in better times?

[RiversideParish]

They don't... Six-Packs are just as fast. I've talked to several Hemi and Six-Pack owners, and I always here the same thing.

If it were a light-to-light streertrace, most of it would go to the 440. Now, it was was a Cannonball Run or NASCAR track or something... obvious.

[THEL78ISGREAT]

LOL, I dont give a crap what they say. They oviously didnt know how to drive a Hemi. A '66 tuned Hemi would shread of 13.25s easily in a Charger. No Six Pack could do that.

[Daffy]

LOL, I dont give a crap what they say. They oviously didnt know how to drive a Hemi. A '66 tuned Hemi would shread of 13.25s easily in a Charger. No Six Pack could do that.
My six pack went 13.00 on six inch tires.I think a properly tuned Hemi would do better than that

[RiversideParish]

LOL, I dont give a crap what they say. They oviously didnt know how to drive a Hemi. A '66 tuned Hemi would shread of 13.25s easily in a Charger. No Six Pack could do that.
Oh, yeah, some 16 year-old on the street knows more about a car then someone who's owned and driven them...

:rolleyes:

[THEL78ISGREAT]

Oh, yeah, some 16 year-old on the street knows more about a car then someone who's owned and driven them...

:rolleyes:
Daffy just agreed with me. How do you know you were talking to people who knew anything? Ive talked to many people to, and they agree with me. A 15 year old on the street knows more?

[RiversideParish]

I mean, talking to them, with them leaning on the fender of the car they were talking about.

Talkin' to themwhile they started the car. Watchin' them drive off down the road.

[THEL78ISGREAT]

Hearing it has nothing to do with it. There was a '71 Cuda with a 440 Six Pack that was across the lot and left about 10 minutes before. It didnt compare. You havent heard the Hemi to compare it to. And the thing you completely are not taking into consideration is that the '69s ALL HAD 4.10S!

[74runner]

LOL, I dont give a crap what they say. They oviously didnt know how to drive a Hemi. A '66 tuned Hemi would shread of 13.25s easily in a Charger. No Six Pack could do that.
mine runs 9.86

[RiversideParish]

9.86? What's it like seeing stars everytime you hit the gas?

[THEL78ISGREAT]

mine runs 9.86
Yours is not stock

[RiversideParish]

Nope, but it only has like 4 grand into it, IIRC.

[THEL78ISGREAT]

Still not stock, and not running stock tires

[deansrr]

always been a small block fan, have had a few 318s and 340s, 340 is my favorite and in my 73 RR